tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post4174340779948432025..comments2023-03-29T02:03:43.120-07:00Comments on Istorie adevărată: Unguri, Secui, Români, MaghiariAdministratorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03791660571700863396noreply@blogger.comBlogger80125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-62157049523830181982016-07-03T11:27:25.669-07:002016-07-03T11:27:25.669-07:00Pardon, Bozgor !!! Nu Ungur !Pardon, Bozgor !!! Nu Ungur !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-5270204050864647382016-03-01T15:49:26.331-08:002016-03-01T15:49:26.331-08:00RELAXAȚI-VĂ FRAȚILOR, CĂ TOȚI SUNTEM EUROPENI. SE...RELAXAȚI-VĂ FRAȚILOR, CĂ TOȚI SUNTEM EUROPENI. SE REFACE IMPERIUL LUI CAROL CEL MARE, NU DOAR PÂNĂ LA DUNĂRE, LA BUDA, CI, PROBABIL CU TOT CU UCRAINA, POATE ȘI TURCIA. SĂNĂTATE FRAȚILOR, ORICE NEAM VEȚI FI FIIND Costin Andreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06297072702867763555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-45934350238008434382016-03-01T15:49:09.031-08:002016-03-01T15:49:09.031-08:00RELAXAȚI-VĂ FRAȚILOR, CĂ TOȚI SUNTEM EUROPENI. SE...RELAXAȚI-VĂ FRAȚILOR, CĂ TOȚI SUNTEM EUROPENI. SE REFACE IMPERIUL LUI CAROL CEL MARE, NU DOAR PÂNĂ LA DUNĂRE, LA BUDA, CI, PROBABIL CU TOT CU UCRAINA, POATE ȘI TURCIA. SĂNĂTATE FRAȚILOR, ORICE NEAM VEȚI FI FIIND Costin Andreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06297072702867763555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-36599303551725191882015-11-30T08:01:32.141-08:002015-11-30T08:01:32.141-08:00Acest comentariu a fost eliminat de autor.mandea1https://www.blogger.com/profile/18325483313116002700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-702599746915461172015-11-29T16:24:01.829-08:002015-11-29T16:24:01.829-08:00https://cubreacov.wordpress.com/2013/03/22/boskorb...https://cubreacov.wordpress.com/2013/03/22/boskorbozgor-un-vechi-nume-etnic-adus-de-pe-volga-i/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04174224282516515533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-69565037362108881002015-11-29T16:23:31.001-08:002015-11-29T16:23:31.001-08:00https://cubreacov.wordpress.com/2013/03/22/boskorb...https://cubreacov.wordpress.com/2013/03/22/boskorbozgor-un-vechi-nume-etnic-adus-de-pe-volga-i/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04174224282516515533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-68364439650942078792014-07-25T02:29:44.624-07:002014-07-25T02:29:44.624-07:00Daca tot ceeace a-ti prezentat este cu adevarat si...Daca tot ceeace a-ti prezentat este cu adevarat sincer si documentat, merita sa fie luat in considerare. Astfel putem corecta putin istoria care a fost scrisa uneori din perspectiva politica, alteori din lipsa de cunostiinta. Oricum cine se simte frustrat poate castiga, daca intr-un mod respectuos si cu inima buna ar da celuilalt un cadou in semn de generozitate. Si pacea s-ar intinde peste lume.....Jeremynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-1136775162970513362014-02-24T09:53:55.963-08:002014-02-24T09:53:55.963-08:00Politica ungurilor a fost dintotdeauna sa/i asimil...Politica ungurilor a fost dintotdeauna sa/i asimileze pe cei din jurul lor,de aceea mai noua lor gaselnita e sa le dea pasapoarte unguresti romanilor care declara ca sunt unguri,si asta se face foarte usor la orice ambasada din strainatate.E jalnic sa vezi cati oportunisti isi nega originile pentru un pasaport,care sa le asigure un loc de munca.Rusine celor care fac asta ,dar se cunoaste ca pentru unguri va fi foarte profitabila treaba asta,desi eu cred ca e ilegal sa faca acest lucru,tinand cont ca este vorba totusi de cetateni romaniAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-38555230926438545652014-02-24T09:46:40.074-08:002014-02-24T09:46:40.074-08:00incearca din nou,si citeste rezultatele testelor g...incearca din nou,si citeste rezultatele testelor genetice de la Hamburg,o sa vezi care e adevarul.Mai mare tampenie n/am mai auzit,cand toata lumea stie ca hunii au fost un popor migrator,venit din Asia.Dar bine va mai credeti buricul pamantuluiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-13028589284742480132013-12-29T09:17:36.668-08:002013-12-29T09:17:36.668-08:00Trac- dac= skita, testele ADN au demonstrat clar p...Trac- dac= skita, testele ADN au demonstrat clar predominata genei hunilor in toate natiile, tablitele de la Tartaria ce vechime au ????? Vizavi de calendarul papistas ,,,,???? Ei aflati ca pe tablitele de la tartaria este scrierea arhaica a hunilor- secuilor adica rhunele,,,, dar fonetic este aceeasi ca si maghiara de astazi, si este deasemenea demonstrat ca maghiara este singura limba actuala ce este neschimbata in proportie de 80 la suta de la facerea pamantului. Maghiari sunt ceea ce am numi astazi Teraformers.........<br />Nu trebuie sa ma credeti , trebuie sa va folositi creierul , sa va documentati si sa puneti la indoiala ceea ce va invata cei ce vor sa va tina sclavi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-70743019030316172932013-12-25T10:53:43.238-08:002013-12-25T10:53:43.238-08:00bai, du-te, asa te invata nationalistii unguri, Ma...bai, du-te, asa te invata nationalistii unguri, Marginimea Sibiului exista pe vremea navalirii tatare, au si legende care vorbesc despre aceste evenimente,o parte din ei au fost dusi fortat si asezati pe Oituz, sa-i opreasca pe tatari...ca sa nu mai vorbim cu cine se bateau ungurii la inceputuri prin imprejurimile Clujului...vorbitorii de limba romana nu erau doar vlahii din Balcani, fa-ti un test genetic sa vezi tu cat de ungur esti !?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-49871047245011676222013-12-25T04:48:15.455-08:002013-12-25T04:48:15.455-08:00Vlahii din Balcani au aparut in Cumania abia in se...Vlahii din Balcani au aparut in Cumania abia in sec, XII dupa patrunderea tatariilor in Cumania. Dupa valahi a primit numele de Valahia. In Ungaria de est au aparut valahii numai in sec. XVI-XVII documenet ianitea aceastor date nu exista. Deci romanii au fost ultimii migratori chiar si romaii au venit inaiatea lor.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09689752765418975983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-21591232975488976672013-08-14T00:55:17.954-07:002013-08-14T00:55:17.954-07:00daca erau maghiarii asa de rai cum descrieti ,atun...daca erau maghiarii asa de rai cum descrieti ,atunci nu exista populatie romaneasca injurul lor ,ai oprimau cind au fost majoritari.dar ei au sprijinit pe romani ,au fost adusi in ardeal ,i sau dat proprietati au fost scolariyati ,negati daca puteti,si acum musca in mana bine facatorului,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-44394851443927000112013-08-14T00:46:06.116-07:002013-08-14T00:46:06.116-07:00asa oltenii nu sint romani degeaba vorbesc romanes...asa oltenii nu sint romani degeaba vorbesc romaneste,nici moldovenii,sinici bucovinenii,inseamna ca romani nu sint numai in jurul bucurestilor,restul este populatie romaniyata din tigani,si alte nationalitati ,tatari ca ceausescu,.de unde provin toate namurile ' din mesopotamia de la babel,de atunci au limbi diferite ,ca atare si romini sint un popor migrator,neunitar ,dovada yilele nostre ,procentul mare de migratii spre vest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-26935236782886924892013-07-27T12:57:48.382-07:002013-07-27T12:57:48.382-07:00http://getica.go.ro/articole.htmhttp://getica.go.ro/articole.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-16160362020636210812013-07-27T11:39:24.564-07:002013-07-27T11:39:24.564-07:00http://www.gandirea.ro/Video.phphttp://www.gandirea.ro/Video.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-13879462815036118472013-07-27T05:52:29.181-07:002013-07-27T05:52:29.181-07:00http://solif.wordpress.com/tag/ziarul-libertatea-s...http://solif.wordpress.com/tag/ziarul-libertatea-stire-sorin-golea-istorie-lingvistica-mitologie-asia-pelasgi-traci-geto-daci-massageti-tisageti-tyrageti-china-india-punjabi-sancrita-romana-latina-dr-lucian-iosif-cuesdean-editura/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-81518184807595947302013-06-24T16:01:02.537-07:002013-06-24T16:01:02.537-07:00atent ce scrie aici:
Si in acelasi timp Ungurii,S... atent ce scrie aici:<br /><br />Si in acelasi timp Ungurii,Slavii si Germanii se casatoreau cu Yiganii.<br />Dig?<br /><br />Stephen the Great (1457-1504), brought 17'000 Gypsies back from his <br />campaigns in Wallachia in 1471 to use as slave labor.His move, however, <br />simply strengthened a practice supported by law, which, for example, <br />stated that any Moldavian that got a Gypsy pregnant and wanted to marry <br />her would lose his status and have to become a slave. Later, 疎ny <br />Moldavian who married a gipsy himself joined the ranks of the robi' ".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-9552372164986788022013-06-24T15:58:14.775-07:002013-06-24T15:58:14.775-07:00That's what you say?
But the question is who a...That's what you say?<br />But the question is who are you, any credentials?<br />Give me some quotes to sustein your argument.<br /><br />It looks to me that the Romanians were prohibited to merry any Gypsies in Moldova. Those who wanted to do so were enslaved themselves.<br /><br /> THE HISTORY OF GYPSY.<br />"The Gypsies of Eastern Europe" Editted by David Crowe and John Kolsti <br />with an introduction by Ian Hancock.<br /><br />"THE GYPSY HISTORICAL EXPERIENCE IN ROMANIA<br />In the long course of the Gypsy experience in Eastern Europe, none has <br />been worse than that in Romania.<br />Within several centuries after Gypsies entered the medieval provinces of <br />Wallachia and Moldavia, they began to be enslaved, a condition that <br />lasted until the mid-nineteenth century.Although slavery was not a <br />condition peculiar to Gypsies or the Balkans at the time, the deep-seated,<br /> dehumanizing prejudice that has characterized the historic Romanian <br />relationship with Gypsies produced a socioeconomic caste system that <br />resulted in the 壮ocial death' of Gypsies as Romanian slaves, and...Over <br />the next century, Gypsy slavery became institutionalize in the Romanian <br />Provinces...In the aftermath of his campaigns against the Ottoman Empire <br />in northern Bulgaria in 1461-1462, the Wallachian ruler, Vlad Tepes(the <br />Impaler), brought back 11,000-12,000 Gypsies(or Gypsy -like people ) to <br />his capital where he tortured and killed some for his entertainment....<br />Stephen the Great (1457-1504), brought 17'000 Gypsies back from his <br />campaigns in Wallachia in 1471 to use as slave labor.His move, however, <br />simply strengthened a practice supported by law, which, for example, <br />stated that any Moldavian that got a Gypsy pregnant and wanted to marry <br />her would lose his status and have to become a slave. Later, 疎ny <br />Moldavian who married a gipsy himself joined the ranks of the robi' ".<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-58321987169913072052013-06-01T23:06:38.571-07:002013-06-01T23:06:38.571-07:00"Da majoritatea Romainilor s-au mutat la nord..."Da majoritatea Romainilor s-au mutat la nord de dunare incepind cu sec.XII" - îți scăpă bre... :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-83879215813598276962013-06-01T23:00:47.936-07:002013-06-01T23:00:47.936-07:00"There is total silence about the Romani infl..."There is total silence about the Romani influences in the local culture. For example, the most used modality to create a Romanian surname (4), by adding the ending -escu, is borrowed from Roma. The traditional way to find somebody's family affiliation, used by Roma worldwide, is to ask kasko san? ("whose are you?"). To answer in Romani, it is used the father's name at the oblique case (by adding the affix -es-) followed by the adjectival affix -ko, an affix found in most Indo-Aryan languages, with a double function: to express possession, affiliation and to adjectivize a noun. Thus, for somebody who is the son of Yon, the answer is Yonesko (?of Yon?) or as the Romanians pronounce and write it, Ionescu. A less used Romanian pronunciation is -aşcu, in the previous example the result being Ionaşcu. A difference that appears also in Romani, depending on the sounds previous to the affix, for example, the most used one, -es-, in lesko ("his"), but -as-, in the above case kasko ("whose"). In Romanian, this vowel change comes mostly concomitantly with a variant of the name's pronunciation, changing e to ă: Petru - Petrescu, but Pătru - Pătraşcu, Pavel - Pavelescu, but Pavăl - Păvălaşcu. In Romanian, only the creation of a family name from the mother?s name is directly understandable in this language. Names like Aioanei, Amariei, Avădanei, Ababei mean in Romanian ?a Ioanei? (of Ioana), ?a Mariei? (of Maria), ?a vădanei? (of the widow), ?a babei? (of the old woman). The other role of the affix -ko, to adjectivize a noun, is also present in the Romanian language: prieten ("friend") - prietenesc (friendly); cer ("sky") - ceresc (?something related to the sky")."<br /><br />Da (din bg.), sunt (lat.) ungur (sl.) și sunt (lat.) mândru (sl.)! <br />Tu ai gânduri (magh.), probleme (fr.) :). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-38040375508816026882013-06-01T08:28:52.795-07:002013-06-01T08:28:52.795-07:00“și eventual să se întrebe de ce hora lor este bul...“și eventual să se întrebe de ce hora lor este bulgărească, sârba-sârbească, geamparaua-turcească, ardeleana-maghiară?!”<br />Pentru ca Romanii au trait si traiesc la sud si la nord de Dunare. Da majoritatea Romainilor s-au mutat la nord de dunare incepind cu sec.XII<br />Citeste:<br />The Vlachs in Bosnia <br /><br />by Noel Malcolm<br />http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?63072-The-Vlachs-in-Bosnia<br />Bebjamin of Tudela XII Cent. AD, describing the Balkans<br />“ Sinon Potamo…the city is situated at the foot of the hills of Wallachia.<br />The nation called Wallachians live in those mountains.<br />They are as swift as hinds, and they sweep down from the mountains to despoil <br />and ravage the land of Greece. No man can go up and do battle against them, and no king can <br />rule over them. They do not hold fast to the faith of Nazarenes, but give themselves Jewish names.<br />Some people say that they are Jews and, in fact, they call the Jews their brethren, and when they <br />meet with them, though they rob them, they refrain from killing them as they kill the Greeks.”<br /><br /><br />“Isaac Angelos - 1156-1204 (Emperor)….made enemies of him and of Romans the barbarians from the Haemus mountain, before they were called “misieni”, but now they are called Vlachs. These (Vlachs), confident of the inaccessibility of their land where they live and depending on their fortresses which are very numerous and built on abrupt cliffs ….” <br />Nota: Vlachi traiau in munti in numeroase fortarete<br /><br /><br />Nichita Choniates, XII cent AD, History<br /><br />“…descending from the valleys closed to the clouds of the mountain Haemus, the nation of the Vlachs, similar to the Holiness stones of the Scripture, rolling shattered and crushed all in their path…”<br />It shows clearly that the Romanians lived separately from anybody else in forteresses on top of the nountains<br /><br />“Și oare de ce sufixele: -esc, -ești, -escu, -esco, etc. au origine romani, pardon, țigănească ?! “<br />Pardon….si cum dovesedti asta?....ca spui tu?....un pseudo ligvist<br />Dovedeste prin cotatii, arata care linvist spune asa ceva….nici unul<br />Numai un Ungur ca tine teribil de complexat de identitatea lui<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-11533444927739092572013-05-31T23:03:45.148-07:002013-05-31T23:03:45.148-07:00Am răsfoit cu atenție comentariile de aici. În mod...Am răsfoit cu atenție comentariile de aici. În mod cert ele gem de fustrații, de ură, generate în special de misterioasa geneză a poporului/natiei române, respectiv de întăietatea oului, sau a găinii. Într-o țară unde fabulațiile unor popi hrăpăreți, ale unui dictator aproape analfabet, ori ale unor "tribuni" naționaliști jalnici, etc. - au fost ridicate la rang de istorie - nici nu-i de mirare. <br />Nu intru în polemica asta, le propun doar patrioților români înfocați să răsfoiască mai des DEX-ul, să-l studize mai atent, cu paranteze cu tot (incl.originea cuv.) și eventual să se întrebe de ce hora lor este bulgărească, sârba-sârbească, geamparaua-turcească, ardeleana-maghiară?!<br />Și oare de ce sufixele: -esc, -ești, -escu, -esco, etc. au origine romani, pardon, țigănească ?! <br />Bibliografie de nivelul comentariilor de mai sus: http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Jirinovski :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-84351985643104061192013-05-27T06:45:27.854-07:002013-05-27T06:45:27.854-07:00Este o idee interesantă şi corectă. Ai făcut ceva ...Este o idee interesantă şi corectă. Ai făcut ceva ca această informaţie şi propunere să fie auzită şi luată în serios de către conducătorii noştri?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335014674134285826.post-63622610332848439652013-05-25T16:24:42.409-07:002013-05-25T16:24:42.409-07:00From "1000 years of Hungary" By Emil Len...From "1000 years of Hungary" By Emil Lengyel. <br />"(Hungarian) Folklore speaks about NIMROD the giant,who had two <br />sons,HUNOR and HAGAR.The former was the ancestor of the HUNS,and MAGOR was the ancestor of the MAGYARS." <br />"The experience the Magyars left with the Western world was so <br />traumatic that even generations later people form the West saw the Hungarians <br />as apocalyptic monsters. Bishop Otto of Freysing spoke of the exterior of <br />the Hungarians as ‘ferocious' at the time of the Crusades :(Their eyes <br />are sunken,their stature is short,their behavior wild,their language <br />barbarous,so that one can either accuse fate or marvel at divine <br />patience for having permitted these monsters the possession of an enchanting <br />land)". <br />From "History of Hungary" By Denis Sinor <br />"Though, geographically speaking, of European origin, the Hungarians <br />who settled in the Danube valley were spiritually and materially, <br />Asiatics, and belonged to the great Central Euroasiatic cultural family whose <br />members lived dispersed form the Danube to China, from Persia and <br />India to the Arctic. The Hungarian bows and arrows...were of exactly the same <br />type as those used in Central Asia. As nomadic peoples generally do, the <br />Hungarians disliked towns, and even houses, to which they preferred <br />tents. According to Otto von Freisingen, as late as the middle of the <br />twelfth century, summer and autumn were still spent under tents". <br />"It is, however quite certain that the Mongoloid type was well <br />represented among them (Hungarians), and that they were, on the whole, of rather <br />short stature, with short legs, bowed through continuous riding". <br />From George Kedrenos (12th century). <br />(Describing the events which took place in 895). <br />"The Emperor had sent the Patrician Skllerous to the Turks WHO were <br />CALLED Hungarians (Oungroi) to convince them to cross the Danube and attack the <br />Bulgarians..." (At this time the Hungarians used to live somewhere near Bug river,in <br />a place called Etel-Kuzu). <br />From John Zonnaras (12th century). <br />(Describing the events of 895). <br />"The Emperor convinced the Turks who lived near Danube and who ARE <br />CALLED Hungarians (Oungroi) to start war against the Bulgars". <br /><br /><br />Ahmad ibn Rustah (Xth Cent AD). Persian explorer and geographer <br /><br /><br />“The Magyars are a race of Turks and their leader rides out with 20,000 horsemen and this king is called k.nd.h and this name denotes their king, for the name of the man who is actually king over them is ĝ.l.h and all the Magyars accept the orders of their ĝ.l.h in the matter of war and defense and the like.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com